11/15/2023 0 Comments Querious pandemic hordeGobbins: I came up with the idea of forming a Pandemic brand of newbie corp after great frustration dealing with Lychton, the leader of brave newbies back then. Porkbutte: Who came up with the idea for Pandemic Horde and when did you start putting plans in motion for it? So, I want to do a profile on Horde, how it started, how it’s evolved, and what it’s up to currently. While some folks get more into disparaging and pointing out the differences between us, the reality is that we both want the game to be better for new players. Porkbutte : Horde and KarmaFleet basically started around the same time and I’d like to think that for the most part, I’ve always viewed it as a friendly rivalry. With this in mind, I decided to share the entirety of our chat about the history of Pandemic Horde and to hopefully go beyond the rhetoric in various media outlets. While sometimes we antagonize each other about decisions our groups are making (The Casino War) there’s usually a polite and respectful conversation afterwards once tempers cool. We met in person at EVE Vegas in 2015 and again 2016 (both times in the elevator of Planet Hollywood). Gobbins even gave my jump freighter pilot standings so I could use their staging system as a mid point on my way back and forth from Deklein. I met Gobbins through Horde’s first CEO, Travis Keikira, who directed me towards him when it came to coordinating fights between our two groups. While Pandemic Horde and the corporation I started, KarmaFleet, are rivals in almost everything we do, I respect and admire their ability to attempt one of the hardest tasks in the game – training new players. I have always been fascinated by how other organizations in EVE Online work and have always found something to respect or admire in how they operate. The idea for a series of articles on alliances in EVE was something I’ve been working on since departing my leadership roles in Goonswarm. As a partnership with Pandemic Legion, former leaders from Brave would create and shape a pandemic-branded newbie organization to do what Brave could not, provide a content-rich safe-ish place for new players to learn how to fight in EVE Online. At the beginning of April, after a very dramatic February and March, the creation of Pandemic Horde was announced. Karmafleet grew rapidly as refugees from Brave departed in droves. And in January of 2015, disaffected members of Brave’s leadership,split from the alliance to join Goonswarm and start KarmaFleet.įor the next few months, throughout the rest of the winter and early spring of 2015, Brave continued its downward spiral. By the end of the year, TEST departed, taking with them some of the more experienced and higher SP pilots. Scapegoats for Brave’s failings were everywhere and as the coalition lost system after system, things began to unravel. While the fights with Pandemic Legion were not based on outright hostility, animosity began to grow in Brave’s ranks as stress from PL exposed weakness in Brave’s leadership in how they’d been handling the conflict. By the end of autumn, PL was headshotting Brave’s staging systems in HED-GP and GE-8JV and the once unstoppable newbie organization was beginning to crumble. Their actions started to take another tone however when Brave’s sovereignty structures in northern Catch began being flipped by PL one after another. In typical fashion, PL ‘third partied’ these skirmishes, which resulted in tilting them in Provi’s favor. By the spring of 2014, Brave Collective was the most popular new-player organization in the game and decided to flex its muscles by forming a coalition of other new-player friendly organizations (including TEST) and invading and occupying a little-loved region of nullsec in Catch.ĭespite some rough patches, Brave occupied Catch relatively easily until the fall of 2014, when skirmishes with ProviBloc caught the attention of Pandemic Legion. A lot of that is because Brave Collective, via its main corporation, Brave Newbies Inc., helped spark an interest in getting new players into PvP fleets and showing how useful they can be at a time when the powers in the game had become polarized and closed off towards new blood. Today’s EVE Online is a much more friendly place for new player than the EVE of 4-5 years ago. Regardless of opinions on the matter, Pandemic Horde is not going anywhere and its leadership under Gobbins, seems as solid as ever. Due to its associations with one of the game’s most powerful and experienced alliances, Pandemic Legion, it has cover and protection from other rival alliances even if that means it is often conveniently pigeonholed as a meatshield, a puppet, or just a stepping stone. For the last few years, Pandemic Horde has become one of the largest and most prominent player-run power organizations in EVE Online.
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